The Board of Perry Township Trustees met in Regular Session on Monday, October 8 2012 at 7:00 p.m. at the Community Room in East Liberty.  Roll Call: Jeff Rosebrook, present, Merle Ackley, present, John Brose, present and Cindy Stalling, present.  Also present was: Bonnie Brose, Dave Frangis, Ken Davis, Dave Cook, Doug Henry, Larry Wellington, Jeff King, Dan Ackley, Logan Brown, Jessica Gibson, Dan Coats, Pup McColloch, Sandy Wilcox, Mitch Current, J.D. Gibson, Victoria Current, Parker Robison, Steve Spath, Dan Sutphen, Ginny Montgomery, Keith Montgomery, Candee Frangis, and Grace Frangis.

     Chairman Rosebrook called the meeting to order.

     The minutes of the previous meeting was given to the Trustees to read prior to this meeting.  Mr. Rosebrook asked if there were any additions or corrections to the minutes and then asked if there were any additions or corrections to the financial statements that were given to the Trustees by the Fiscal Officer.  They stand approved.

     Mrs. Bonnie Brose, janitor, thanked Joe Torsell for getting the inmate from the Logan County Jail to come out and do the floors at the fire house and also at the Lodge Hall.  The floors look really nice.  Mr. John Brose purchased pizzas for them the two times they were here to feed them.

     Mrs. Brose reported that the Wagon Train will be coming through East Liberty on Sunday and they will be stopping at Perry Park to eat their lunch. 

     Mr. Dave Cook, squad chief, reported that the squad is doing good.

     We received an estimate on putting in a bedroom at the fire house, putting up a wall also for the pressure tank and doing the plumbing.  The estimate was from Rod Cook Construction, LLC and was for $1,000.00.  Mr. Jeff Rosebrook made a motion to accept this estimate, seconded by Mr. Merle Ackley.  Rosebrook, yes, Ackley, yes and Brose, yes.

     Mr. Jeff King wanted to know if there was some kind of rule for people soliciting at resident’s homes.  We told him that we are not incorporated; therefore there cannot be a ruling on this.  Each individual can put up their own signs if they want to. 

     Mr. Dan Ackley, zoning inspector, gave a zoning update.  He sold 3 permits in the last month.  He said that Gene Shaw wanted to know if there is any way to notify residents on what you need permits for.  We said that we have zoning signs up at the entrances to Perry Township.  All he needs to do is call the zoning inspector to find out.

     Mr. Logan Brown, daytimer, EMT/FF, has the opportunity to take the Level 1 FF class.  There is the 36 hour class, the Level 1 and Level 2 Fire Classes.  He has the 36 hr. certification, and would like to take the Level 1 class.  He stated that he will be with the Dept. for 2 years in Feb.  and he said that in the 36 hr. class you get enough training to get you hurt, and so he would like to advance his training.  The class costs $900.00 to take.  He said that there is 3 ways to fill his commitment:

1) sign a 2 year contract with Perry Township Fire Dept.

2) deduct $1.00 per hour from his pay until it is paid for

3) Apply for the Ohio Fire Marshall grant, and he was told that no one is denied this grant.  The OFM will reimburse for the class, books, and everything you need for the class.  Mr. Brown said that this would help the township, as he would have a better understanding when he responds to a fire.  He just needs the money up front to sign up for the class.  You apply for this grant in January.  It is an 84 hour class, the 1st class was tonight, and the last class is Dec. 16, it is being held at the Rushcreek Fire Dept.  Mr. Brown said that he is willing to sign a contract with Perry Township Fire Dept.  After some discussion, and a lot of questions answered, Mr. John Brose, made a motion to let Mr. Brown attend this class, we will up front the money, he will sign a contract with Perry Township and we will apply for the grant in Jan, , seconded by Mr. Merle Ackley.  Rosebrook, yes, Ackley, yes and Brose, yes.

   Mr. John Brose reported that the refrigerator in the Lodge Hall seems to be okay now, they cleaned the coils in the back. 

     Mr. Brose got the new bed for the fire dept.

     Mr. Brose stated that the engine light is still on on the Ford Truck, it needs to be looked at and see what is wrong with it.

     Mr. Brose thanked Mr. Merle Ackley and Mr. Dave Sharp for spraying for mosquitoes this season. 

     Mr. Merle Ackley brought up about the cemetery clean-up, we need to get it advertised, so we can do the fall clean up. 

     Mr. Ackley brought up about closing Perry Park, all decided to do it Oct. 30, so it will done before Trick-or-Treat night.

     Mr. Ackley talked to Mr. Melvin Douglas, and he wants to stay on the BZA. 

     Mr. Jeff Rosebrook reminded everyone that Dumpster Day is on Sat., Oct. 13 from 8 – 12 noon in front of Perry Park.

     Mr. Rosebrook reported that John, Cindy and himself went to the Zane Twp. meeting to discuss the crack fill machine.  Mr. Paul Blair from Jefferson Twp., was there also, and Zane Twp. trustees stated that they want to stay in the contract with the other two townships.  They do not want to sell out their share of the machine.

     Mr. John Brose brought up about the land on the corner of SR 292 and CR 2 where Leo Levan used to live, it is across from the North Greenfield Cemetery, and it is for sale.  Mr. Brose stated that maybe we want to purchase this land for storage, as it has a garage on it.  Mr. Brose talked to Mr. Charles Ziegler, and was told that we could rent it or we can make an offer on it.  After some discussion, the trustees all agreed to go out and look at it and then figure out a price if we are interested in it.

     Mr. Brose brought up about the Christmas lights for the Evergreen tree in the Twp. yard.  He said that it will take around 3,000’ of lighting and for that amount of lighting would cost around $1,900.00 from Environmental off of the internet.  This is for commercial lights and we would need to bring in a lift to put the lights up. We would need around a 60’ lift and that would cost $600.00- $800.00 per day for the lift.  After a lot of discussion, Mr. Merle Ackley made a motion to purchase lights for the tree but to not go over $1,500.00 for the lights and lift together, seconded by Mr. John Brose.  Rosebrook, yes, Ackley, yes and Brose, yes.   Mr. Brose will continue to shop for lights on the internet and see if he can get them in the price range.

     Mr. John Brose reported that Mr. Mitch Current called Robinaugh and Fire House today and to get the Fire House software to send the fire runs in to the State it would cost us $1,410.00 for up to Dec. 1, 2012 to get it from Dec. 1, 2012 to Dec. 2013 it would cost $2,115.00.  And to get TriTech, this is to send in the EMS runs in to the State it would cost $499.00 and this is for June 2012 to June 2013.  Mr. Jeff Rosebrook made a motion to both of these, seconded by Mr. Merle Ackley.  Rosebrook, yes, Ackley, yes and Brose, yes.  

     Mr. Merle Ackley reported that the roads are all stripped; the center and the edges and they look real nice. 

     Mrs. Stalling asked what the dirt pile and the old gas is for?  The Trustees said that the Power people are using it.

     We received a letter from the Log. Co. Prosecuting Attorney about letting the daytimers work more than 1500 hours per year, and they still will not get any benefits, like insurance, or overtime.  The trustees read over the paper and then Mr. Jeff Rosebrook made a motion that we put this paper into effect, seconded by Mr. Merle Ackley.  Rosebrook, yes, Ackley, yes and Brose, yes.  Mrs. Stalling had copies for all the fire dept. that they will have to sign, the fire chief, the squad chief, and the trustees will also be signing them. 

     Mrs. Stalling had the old road book, and stated that she would like to get back to putting in the work that is done on each road when it is done.  It has not been kept up to date and she would like to do this again.  But, the trustees will have to let her know what is done on the roads so she can update it.

     Mr. Keith Montgomery, fire chief, thanked the trustees for letting them present the new fire truck.  Chief reported that he put together a committee for the new truck, the committee consisted of: Mitch Current, J.D. Gibson, Dan Coats, Dustin Cook, and Dave Frangis.

    Chief gave a brief update on Perry Township Fire Dept.:

In 1925- we had a Model A truck with a tank on the back and they threw soda in the back for pressure.  This was used through the Depression and WWII.

In 1948-49 The Township wanted their own fire dept.

1950-51- Mr. Harding built a building for the fire dept.  This building is now the Community Room.  A 1952 truck was purchased and a tank was put on it. 

1953- the truck fell apart.

1954- had an old fuel tank and had it through the 1960’s

1974- purchased oxygen for air packs

1975 got contract with TRC for $2,000.00 per year for coverage, Bought new air packs

1977 State came in and everyone had to take the 36 hour schooling

1978 Fire Dept. wanted a new truck and passed a 1.5 mill levy by a landslide

1985 the 1963 tanker leaked, TRC bought old water truck and a new tanker was made.

1999-2000- Bought the new engine and squad

 2010- Trustees told Chief to get everything, new gear, radios and they were all up to date. 

2003- we started the day crew.

2012- Engine 41 was no longer safe to use.


   Then Capt. Dave Frangis, got up and told of the concerns of the engine, stating that he has been on the Dept. since 2003.  Dave stated that we have been fixing all the equipment for the last 10 years at the Fire Dept.  Dave said that to do an effective job, you need to have an effective tool.  Why a new truck?  Engine 41 has bad wiring.  Dave said to use the ladder, everything else has to be shut down to use the ladder, the truck blows fuses all the time.  Recently at a barn fire, the pump disengaged so we had no water, Bokescreek Fire Dept. had to take over for Perry Township.  Dave went over the concerns and problems with Engine 41.  What to do with the wiring?  To re-wire the truck they had an estimate of $60,000.00- $100,000.00 with no guarantee.  In Sept. 2012 we had a pump test and the pump did pass, but the seals are leaking.  We will need to fix that and that would cost $15,000.00 to fix.  Mr. Frangis stated that the people of Perry Township support the Fire Dept.  Mr. Frangis stated that whatever decision the Trustees will make either repair Engine 41 or purchase a new truck, Perry Township will have to spend a large amount of money.

      Then Mr. Mitch Current, got up and had paperwork, graphs, and went over about why it’s not worth putting money in repairs to Engine 41.  He had paperwork on trucks from Fire Safety Service, (a Smeal Truck), and also from Sutphen.  Mr. Current stated that we would have trouble finding anybody that wants to work on Engine 41 anymore.  Mitch said that we can service a new truck here locally.  He also said that everything on the blueprints is not a want they are a need. The committee has made all the cuts they could possibly make.  Both of these trucks are State Contract Fire Trucks, therefore they would not have to go out for bids. 

     The truck price started out at $509,000.00, now the Smeal truck is $453,250.00 and the Sutphen truck is $453,971.16.  Both bids are good for 60 days.  Mr. Current answered a lot of questions from the Trustees about different things about the truck. 

     Mr. Dan Coats, got up and reported that he has been on the Fire Dept. since 1994, and Dan stated that Dave and Mitch has pretty much covered all the things that he had to present to the Trustees.  Dan stated that after the first of the year, you will have to add another 3.5 to 4 % increase on the price of the truck. 

     We are up to 39 fire runs right now for 2012.

     Chief had heard a lot about the electrical problems, and he said that it is embarrassing around other departments.  He stated that it would be bad if someone was in a fire and the truck would quit running- someone could perish and that would really be bad. 

     Mr. Dan Sutphen, got up and reported that his company is a family owned company and has been in business 122 years, they have 354 employees and make 200 trucks per year.  Mr. Sutphen reported that the chassis is not the same on the two trucks; their chassis is built in Springfield, Ohio.  He went over certain details about the truck that he is putting up for bid. Mr. Sutphen reported that hard water is an ode in the fire pump.  It needs to be inspected annually and will have to be replaced every 2-3 years.   Mr. Sutphen stated that the material on the body of the truck is 3/16”; he said that the committee did everything to prevent corrosion.  

     Mr. Steve Spath, of Fire Safety Services, reported that they have been in business 50 years and it is a 3 generations business.  He stated that Smeal Co. is out of Nebraska and the chassis comes out of Michigan.  They use 1/8” – 3/16” aluminum on the body of the truck.  He talked about the plastic part of the inside of the compartments; he said it is like Tupperware compartments.  Mr. Spath went over the details of the truck he is putting up for bid.  He said that both trucks have a lot of American made parts on the trucks. 

     Both gentlemen complimented how well the committee did putting together this truck.  This is not a gaudy, show truck it is a working truck.

     The trustees thanked the committee for doing such a great job, and also thanked the two businesses for their input tonight.

     Chief thanked Danny and Steve for coming tonight and thanked the guys from the fire dept.

       Mr. Brose and Mr. Rosebrook said that they did not want to put any money into the old truck, whichever truck we would go with, it should last us 20-30 years.

     Mr. Jeff Rosebrook made a motion to pay the bills, seconded by Mr. John Brose.  Rosebrook, yes, Ackley, yes and Brose, yes. 


TOTAL OF BILLS:                                       $143,016.97




INCOME FOR SEPTEMBER                       $14,123.28


     Mr. Jeff Rosebrook made a motion for adjournment, seconded by Mr. Merle Ackley.  Rosebrook, yes, Ackley, yes and Brose, yes.



                                                Respectfully submitted by:



                                                Cindy Stalling, Fiscal Officer


Accepted by Perry Township Trustees:

Jeff Rosebrook


Merle Ackley


John Brose